Diversity and eccentricities of females and their sexual behaviors all over the world

Nationalities of females that a number of PUAs on MASF have laid. It talks about the diversity and the "eccentricities" and "particulars" of each nationality of women. Of course it need not apply to each woman. But gives you a general cultural and geographical idea.

http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/read?159382,8e

FR: #close HB9+ Classy Jailbird @ Court House, C&F in front of DA

FR: #close HB9+ Classy Jailbird @ Court House, C&F in front of DA

THURSDAY (last week)

COULD USE ADVISE ON WHEN TO CALL AND WHAT MIGHT BE A GOOD ENGAGE ?

ONCE AGAIN - I NEED ADVISE. WHEN SHOULD I CALL HER BACK. READ THE MAIN SCENE AND THE CLOSE.. and PLEASE ADVISE. THANKS.

Scenario:

A boring courthouse where I wanted to get in and get out, get my things done. I was pleading non guilty for a non-moving violation.

Outfit:
Work slacks
White Cotton Shirt
Nice all metal business watch.
Black dress shoes.
Not shaved today so not completely good looking like I usually am.

Target:

HB9+ Jailbird ClassyClassy-
Brunette/Redhead - some damn hair color shade or natural couldnt care.
Tall atleast 5'8".
Perfect body, Perfect Face ( I give 10 to the ABSOLUTELY STUNNING ones.. ENCHANTING.. as in a prev FR w HB10).
(OTOH - If I look back, if she had been dressed up for the night out with make up .. she might just be 9.5 close to a 10).
She was in semi-casual business slacks and jacket with a nice pullover thing inside.

(Also I dont like females who put too much make up on to try to look nice.. ugh.. i like a more clean natural look).

Pre-conditions:
I was in no way i a positive state as I had to get out from work to do this crappy thing.

SCENE 1: (The disinterested Fluff)
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I walk into the Court House where they are calling out people for the batch of people prior to my scheduled time.

I find a place to sit and relax, arrange papers etc. Find a better place further up and sit. Change once more.
( I dont remember if she was already there or came there after me. I think after me... hardly matters)

I am just involved in the papers I had etc. I dont talk to her for a while ( I was simply not in the mood or the least bit interested). A few work related phone calls later, I thought might as well converse as I am getting bored.

So ask her whats she in for, tell her what I was there for, apparently we both were there for similar thing and it was like AN YEAR ago.. and the dates they gave were ...late. Short ..very very short. I was just grunting and commenting, this is stupid to be here for something so trivial.

I do a little joke.. where I was like they should have PS2s here.. so atleast you can enjoy the time u are here.. if not.. atleast they should have like Wifi (802.11b) so that I could bring my laptop, get work done and connect with my team. She was like PS2s would be cool. ( I did this ANIMATED.. as if a virtual PS2 or laptop were there).

(Short and sweet - I did not care - back to our own worlds and thoughts)

SCENE 2: (The disconnect)
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I notice that this little boy is standing to the right of me (end of long bench seat) and ask him if he wants to sit and give him space between her and me (coincidental). Apparently slowly people to her left move and there is MORE space in between so the parents of the boy move in and she moves away towards the left. ( Dunno if she wanted to stick around or not - Couldnt care, except that I woudl much rather enjoy chatting with her than the Familia Espanol - no offence)

SCENE 3: (MAIN SCENE - The SUPER C&F)
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Its been a good 30 mins and they start calling names and I head to the front row (heading to the back , then right side of room and to the front) and 3 mins later guess who comes all the way from the left...(left front and then right) (reaching almost the right most corner of the public seats.. front row)

[NOTE: THIS ENTIRE THING WAS DONE IN THE FRONT ROW OF THE COURT HOUSE WHERE DEFENDANTS ARE SITTING AND I COULD NOT BELIEVE I DID WHAT I DID :) WHERE I DID IT. ]

As soon as she arrives .. I give her a funny look and say.. "are you stalking me". She smiles, sits down. I again look away towards the center of the court room to make sure I do not miss out when they call my name again and want to GET OUT of there.

I noticed some commotion to the right and I speak to her ( I dont know if she started conversing or I did). I dont remember in what order but the following things I remember from the conversation:
- I find that she got arrested for her violation becuz she did not know that a warran was out on her name
- I bust her chops.. calling her criminal.. i was like.. stay away from me.. i cant be friend with criminals.. I mean the DA is sitting right there.. if he saw us talking he would probably just incriminate me ..because of the company I keep.. I gather in this other female with me.. tell her and get her support.. "dont u think it could be dangerous to my case, an innocent guy..". She is like.. you better watch what you say (in a playful manner).. and I was like but thats the truth.. I have to save myself.. I keep bustin and she does the standard.. light punches on my arm.. girl thing.. she is like it was not like that.. blah blah.. her qualifying
- I find out that she was in for 24 hours and her boss had bailed her out and that she worked for a law firm
- Ask her if shes a legal assisstant and she is not, but basically she assissts him as such..
- ask what kind of law (criminal civil corporate) the firm practices and end up finding that they do a mix of all
- (This is something I did not ask.. she VOLUNTEERS to the convo): Shes like in some odd way the firm does work for the government and in essence she was working for the government. She is like just the way for the american govt to screw you over for stupid things..
- I am like yeah thats so the sad truth that they do it all the time and get away with it.. but (THIS IS THE MONEY LINE - CAME UP ON THE FLY) "Its okay if the goverment screws you upfront and you know it, but its bad that they screw you over from the back/behind".. I was actually trying to say that there are so many things that you do not know about the Govt and the things they do behind you... hehe but of course.. this had PURE SEXUAL CONNOTATION to it.. and got a look and a major laugh from her.. punch again.. ( I was in C & F State - MY NATURAL STATE when I am in a good mood - and my MIND was coming up with stuff on the fly ).
- Somewhere in the middle I noticed that this guy in a suit (probably an attorney.. for the state was walking around just smiling and talking to the court house people.. and I was like.. LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON ENJOYING YOURSELF BIG TIME OUT HERE.. with a C&F and SMILE. He was like.. we are all here.. so might as well enjoy it.. I was like yeah .. of course thats the way to be.
- All the time my body language is away from her.. since I am sitting left side to her (looking towards center of room turning my neck to her and saying stuff on occassion).. shoulder and she seemed to have twisted her body towards me

My name gets called I leave and dont even bother to say goodbye.. I am like "wow, cool, its about time, (all the best)": - did i say that ? i dont remember".

Notes:
1. I did not put too much emphasis on her, nor attention.
2. Body language was laid back and away.
3. Incorporated social interaction with others. (shortly the attorney guy, and once the african american woman that supported me when I was busting her for being a criminal)

SCENE 4: (The number close)
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They dropped the charges based on evidence that was already present in the PAPERS they had on file (damn stupid fkers.. made me wait for an year and waste one day of work).

Head to the queue to get my "BOND" back. (Yes they issued a warrant saying that papers I had were not right).

Standing in Q, I talk to a bunch of people, one guy ahead of me, who got a speeding ticket then 5 mins later one guy behind me who was in college and had gotten into a wreck and made more money out on the insurance than the value of the car but his "insurance" had gone up.. generally talking about having known some people from his university etc. (Yes - used to have a lot of univ social proof.. damn i did not capitalize.. the MORAL me).

[ HB9+ got left behind and even though she was the next person to be called after me. So when she joined the Q there were like 10 people behind me.. ].

( I think I looked at her and shouted out.. whoa! you seriously got left behind) (( SHould have added.. did you get arrested again))

She (HB9+ who else) mustve noticed, me being social with other people.

I get to the counter and basically fill out some paperwork that takes some more time than I thought.. well thats good..I get that done and turn around and when I start to leave I notice her in Q about 2-3 people away from getting to the counter.

[I know my close sucks]
I was like... wow! you are still here.. tsk tsk.. I was like do you have a business card or something, she was like no. (I kind of froze.. and I was like.. what the fuck do I do.. cause I was so SELF-PROGRAMMED not to ASK A GIRL FOR HER NUMBER.. and I was frozen trying to think of one of the LINES ..where you IMPLY but do not ASK and the girl FINDS A WAY TO GET IN TOUCH.. and stuff) (Later I remembered.. - gotta go now, but how can we do this again) ( I shouldve adapted it to "so jail bird.. i know you mustve had quite a 24 hours in there.. id love to hear about your Xperiences and how you survived in there.. blah blah.."

Anyways, so after a short pause between her and me (both confused). I just took out my cellphone. I was like lets get together sometime. She punches in my number into her phone and she is like what area code.. I am like XXXX where I used to be.. . I am like just call me now, that way I will save your number to my phone.

After I start to save her number.. I am like.. hmm.. BTW - I a XmlEnigma.. I am sorry I forgot your name.. you are.. she is like.. HB9+Jailbird Classy.. we shake.. and i am like cool.. and i walk. [I did not save her name as yet.. and it might be one of 2 common names.. i cant seem to remember and decide which one.]

SCENE 5:
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As I walk I try to call some buddies on that side of town and see if we can meet since my work day was scwed anyways. While I am on call with one guy I notice another call, number I dont recognize. So I put om hold, switch.

"female voice": Who is this.. blah blah... I am like who is this.. ? She is like who is this.. I am like.. this is XmlEnigma.. who is this.. shes like.. oh..im sorry i was trying to call my friend.. I got/dialled the wrong number.. end



THOUGHTS:
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PS: I decided that since I had plans with my buddies for the weekend to go out sarging I would not call her too early and place too much value. Also since it was Thursday calling on a Friday could lead to a "good luck" if she does not have any plans.. but again.. too much value.

SO PHONE GAME ADVISE FOR RANDOM COLD # CLOSES ??

WHEN SHOULD I CALL ?? - It was last thursday. I dont want her to forget. I think I made the COURT thing fun for both of us.
WHAT SHOULD I SUGGEST?
WHAT IF I GET THE VOICEMAIL of HER CELL??
SHOULD I TEXT INSTEAD OF CALLING?
? ANY RECOMMENDED PHONE GAME FRs or EXCERPTS from the MANUAL TFM or other PUAs archives.

Note:
It did not seem like she has a lot of stable friends (if it was her boss that bailed her out.. but that was an year back.. so i dont know).

POSSIBLE THINGS I AM THINKING FOR THE NEXT CONVO:
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The thing is I couldnt care less if I lost this one.. (I did care about HB10 Brazilian Stunning.. so very my TYPES). But, in the essence of PRACTISE I want to follow up BIG TIME with the following angle:
- C&F busting on her Jail experince
- Call her JailGirl or JailBird (since I dont remember her name). A wing of mine suggested call her "JailBait" .. hehe.. I dont know if that is too far out .. or I could first call her JailBird and then tell her you know what.. Ive got the perfect nick name for you..
"Jail Bait".. that way we can title out a book on your 24 hour "newbie" experience in Jail.

GUYS I COULD REALLY USE FEEDBACK HERE. I have been going out big time last few weeks posting FRs. Not getting comments. Everyone seems to just want to praise the PUAs getting their LRs. I think this is a place to learn.. so I am postin FRs.. help ME LEARN this MARTIAL ART.

I AM BASICALLY REALLY ENJOYING THE GAME. I COULDNT CARE LESS ABOUT THE OUTCOME BUT WANT TO SHOW PERSISTENCE.

Thanks,

Xml Enigma

http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/read?161436,24

FR: HB10 on Wed night @ Hip-Hop Club - Part II - MILF @ I-Hop

FR: HB10 on Wed night @ Hip-Hop Club - Part II -

The - MILF @ I-Hop

Wednesday night with Old friend natural PUA at Hip-Hop Dance Club - Part II - MILF @ I-Hop

(Continued from Part I - http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/read?160844,24)

As usual I will be logging this down in as much detail as possible. Readers are free to skip scenes, but I always enjoy comments.

PRE-CONDITIONS:

We generally have fun at the Hip-Hop club and drive back to my place and on the way decide to grab a bite at the I-Hop on the way.

We get there the place is empty and we just start to discuss what we did indepently that night. We concluded that this Hip-Hop place requires a very different game. He being a Natural was kind of out of place from the usual Lounge Club setting where there are usually single professionals etc. v.s thugs and hos.

SCENE 1:

We are talking and he notices an SUV & a car with some old people that are super tipsy but super "fun" (they seemed quite wild and fun). He is like that female is hot. From the distance I can see its a MILF, but I am not into "that" old. I say.. well she definitely MUSTVE been hot in her time.

We look smile and get back to our conversation.

SCENE 2:

The gang of 3 - HBMidEastMILF, HBUGGermanAdamsApple and OldEnergeticGuy come in to the I hop prancing around tipsy / high energy.

(This entire gang was old)

As HBMidEast is passing our booth, I say.. hey dont fall down okay.. easy.. easy.. (We werent interested, but since I was my chatty self from Part I of this FR, I just commented). My friend was like, do you need any help. (confidently.. laid back).

For some odd reason HBMidEast sits down next to him at booth and HBUGGermanAdamsApple sits next to me. I go C&F by sayiung.. hey thats alright if you want to sit down but you are not getting any free food from us...

for some odd reason she takes it "seriously" and "personally".

HBMidEast is like I got my money blah blah.. I very rich.. broken english and mixed arabic in between (habibi ...blah blah). HBUGGerman is like that is offensive.. you offend us.. I am like.. hey if you cant take a joke thats not my problem.

My natural friend goes good cop and apologises holds her to calm her down..

Throughout she is like "finger pointing" at me.. being young, immature etc.. I am cool, calm smiling and bust her everytime.. I am like if you are grown enough you would know not to take everything seriously.. my comments should be water off the rocks..

I keep bustin her and DO NOT APOLOGIZE for anything.

My natural friend keeps consoling her.. at that point I did not know if he was gaming her or not.. and if he was interested or not.

Lot of fluff and usual her being offended and me cool. (During this OldGuy came by and we chit chat a bit.. funny stuff.. he says he released some tension in the mens room.. i am like.. dude... thats totally unhygenic.. i am not going in there anymore.. dont even shake hands with me.. :P ... also later HBUGGerman comes n goes but HBMidEast sticks around as if she has gotten a fancy for my friend )

SCENE 3:

Our waiter joins us and we have a talk about him being Pagan and acting as if he is not to get into bed good christian girls. Etc. He is like ..I think HBMidEast is someone he would do.. blah. blah. He is funny and I ask him to sit down...(HBUGGerman had left long back). HBMidEast goes to their table far away in smoking section and comes back in a bit.. next to Natural.

The usual C&F w a little sexual state from the waiter. Fun except I started to tell my friend (in a non-english tongue.. HINDI..dude.. i got to work tomorrow u want her ? if not..lets get out.. he is like no i dont.. but hes got something on his mind)

We bust her she is pissed at me etc.. i couldnt care less.. and i take all that without a flinch to my smile.

SCENE 4:

Waiter leaves etc. We debrief on the way out and drive back. He mentions that he did this once to a girl. He amped the BITCHes (who was acting up and insulting a friend) temperature high enough.. took her to her vehicle.. stripped her of her clothes as if to do her.. and then threw the clothes out of the car.. gave her 25 cents and said.. thanks for the entertainment.

Basically, I was insulting offensing her.. with my cool, calm C&F. He was like.. if he wants to bust people like HER .. takes them high and drops them LOW. (she was being totally bitchy to me throughout.. and I did not care .. esp not that far .. as what he would do would be HARSH )..

ALSO BACKGROUND:

She was basically feeling him up under the table.. totally all over.. and she basically had made it known to him it was ON. She went to the restroom and she motioned him to come over ( behind me so I did not see). He was like.. nah.. and motioned back to her.. no.. (maybe she thought he was playing hard to get.. maybe he was). She also managed to tell him if he would like to walk out for a bit (maybe do her in her SUV). He was planning to BUST HER using that.. but I was consistently busting on her and I did not know what he wanted to do.. since he had made it clear he was not interested in her.

END NOTE:
Even though I thought him doing that thing was harsh, I was like if you wanted to do that you might as well gain something and have fun right. I suggested hee couldve gotten a blowjob from her in the bathroom and given her 25c. and walked out..
That would have been the best close. Thats waht I told him.. and he was like yups.

PS: Sometimes bitches need to be shown their place.

NOTE: ALL IN ALL A FUN NIGHT WITH AN OLD BUDDY. WE COULDNT CARE LESS. HAD A BLAST.

- xmlenigma

http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/read?161036,24

FR: HB10 on Wed night @ Hip-Hop Club - Part I

FR: HB10 on Wed night @ Hip-Hop Club - Part I

Wednesday night with Old friend natural PUA at Hip-Hop Dance Club - Part I

As usual I will be logging this down in as much detail as possible. Readers are free to skip scenes, but I always enjoy comments.

PRE-CONDITIONS:

My friend natural PUA comes to town and we talk about stuff and how he has been doing ONS and cold PUs in the US and in India. He has laid HB7s to HB9s... regularly. He has a list of things to do... challenges.. 8 things. of which one is "do a girl in an elevator" and he did just that 2 weekends back ... his "blow job at 80 miles an hour in a car" thing has yet to be done.. he has done a number of them and list is almost done.

Either way we talk about what we have been upto, catching up etc.

SCENE 1:

We catch dinner, get ready and head out to the club.

OUTFIT: Blue Denims, Pimped out - emulation Suede leather types (full sleeved) short fit shirt

Head inside (we are early) and near a Bar, just talk about stuff, possible targets and who and how to approach. We are laid back and I am "not" in state yet. The place starts to "fill up" and we walk around still not approaching. (Damn!).

SET 1:

Finally after a few possible IOIs that we noticed but did not "cash upon" we approached 2 females who were waiting for their BFs or dates and we did that after having been around them for a while (so that I think spoilt it). It seemed a little "planned" and hesitant. They freeze us out.

SET 2:

Behind us at the booth 3 set: HB6.5Blond, HB6.5Brunette, UGFatSista. Sit down next to UGBFSista; Standard fluff about them sitting there not going out there dancing and they say they will once they get more drunk. (In between I find Blond is under 21 so Brunette has to come to bring her in). Do the girls/guys who lies more routine ..they are not very interactive.. (maybe I wasnt that +ve energy yet). Find out that they all work retail etc and ask them to get me "hookups" as I am new to town etc. My wing Natural is on the sidelines and talking a little bit. I say he is from London and im showing him around are there better places around the area. I find I am getting bored and they are too so I eject with a "have fun" and I should see you dancing out there.

Notes:
1- Too long, Tried too hard, Girls were too low class, low energy and not conversational
2 - I need to remember routines that I can stack and stack on girls to get them to talk in such loud clubs esp. w their BShields.
3- Good thing was this was a warmup and slowly I started getting more "chatty".


SET 3:

Once I slowly got "chatty", I opened bar tenders, beer tub girls (with do you girls get a bonus if u sell the most? i noticed that the girl who sells the most.. shows the max. cleavage ) - get a little laugh out of them, say that they should do that..make more money.. etc. Opened a few random sets with they should be dancing (std we are not yet that drunk) and say I should see them on the floor later ..have fun..

SET 4:

HBCuteChunky7.5 with other boring UGs I go and say that I really love the "hat" she has and touch the hat and tell her I need to get one for my sister. Ask her where she got it etc. Rest of the set is on sidelines and she is talking but I dont have that many interesting things to say so she re-assimilates into her pack and I exit. I am still high energy and chatty. (Later when the WET TSHIRT contest happened I noticed that she was out there and had a freaking naturally filledup MANGO RACK to get lost in.

NOTE: I was keeping all these sets short and sweet. Showing that I was not afraid to approach against all odds. I was high energy when I came in and high energy when I went out.

SET 5:

3 Set: 2 Blondes(6, 6.5), 1 Brunette (8). Hello, their BFs are here -> I am new to Houston -> I want to make friends so I'd like to talk to their guys as well. Girls/Guys lie more fluff.. etc.. (how does someone capitalize on this opener inthe right way). Chit chat for a while. One guy arrives I get up and give him space to set inside the booth (MISTAKE ???) and say hello befriend. But I decide to keep it short and sweet and get out.

SET 6: (Super Stunning Brazilian)

This "amazing" "stunning" "pretty" "hot" HB10BrazilianFairAngel is sitting alone at a Booth with one leg perched up on the opposite side of the booth (Why ? tired ? I dont know I should have busted on her and asked). I sat down opposite to her at the Booth (Should I have sat next to her or not ???). She said that she was here with someone and I was like cool, Id love to talk to him too and since I am new to town make friends with him and take him around and then to Brazil and leave him there so that he gets lost and cannot find his way back. Her "BoreF" (this guy was as boring looking AFC White with Spiked hair) as it comes. I get up shake get him into the booth, sit next to him. Chat to him about stuff.. and chat to her and suddenly while chatting with her I turn (BODY TURN.. Freeze her out) and chat to him and find out what kind of work does he do get him to say he will hook me up with store he works at and get his cell number. We exchange names on another shake. I shake with "HER" and get her name as well. Here when I said my name she did not hear it so she had me repeat it 2-3 times until she could (possible IOI). I noticed that she was amazed at how I had +ve energy throughout even after Mr.Block came back in.

Somewhere in between I said she should give me a little kiss on my cheek ( he was at the table) since I am new to town and that would be nice of them to welcome me etc. (funny and ALWAYS with a +ve million $ smile). She is like I cant and I am like im gonna get him to be a sport and not mind it .. but he does. Also, somewhere in between we find that "she is from brazil". DAMN! I had done the brazil story without knowing that. She asks me and I say guess. She thinks and says "India". I look at her with smile and squinted eyes.. "hmm.. you hit the jackpot". Fluff a bit.

Notes:
1 - DAMN. This girl was so stunning as well as sweet, that I would give up on PU and go into an LTR.
2 - I should've found out where she worked as well (would have been easy and natural since I had de-escalated the guy and asked him where he worked etc.) That would have been an excuse to bump into her place for coffee.
3 - By this time I was super high energy, very positive vibe, very chatty and very "smiley". No I dont have a "lame guy" smile. I have what I have been told my ladies to be a "charmers" smile.
4 - Girls that really interest me (non-mediocre... HB9s and 10s) really amp my game ..as they amp my INTEREST and I really speaking remain my +ve high energy C&F as they usually enjoy that.

SET REPEATS:

I go dance, come out walk around the club etc. meet my Natural wing and another "wing" who have been fluffing around a little. I keep most sets short n sweet and everytime I see the previous sets I say hey.. there u are.. having fun.. and say.. hey cmon ..gimme a hug.. and they do.. with smiles.. of course they are with their guys etc.

One set I had opened was sitting in the verandah bar and I go reopen by saying they said that they would be out there dancing and stuff after got drunk and they were not and they should be out there having fun versus sitting around like me. ( actually sat down in a very laid back alpha fashion). By this time they had gotten up and were heading inside and paused to turn around and say hey c'mon etc. (before I had said hmm.. so u get drunk and then you dance and get freaky ...cool cool.. so one girls says.. we dance but we dont get freaky etc.. i was like thats okay as long as you are dancing.. that should be cool..) (Should have busted them and said "so you are going to be BORING.. if you cant dance like grown girls then I cant dance with you" with a mischevious smile and smirk).

I get up and we head towards the inside and there are 2 possible ways to go and they seem to be leading (it seemed like they invited me but did not care to wait/slow down / or just did not notice that) so I just exited out into another direction. I decided not to follow.

I should've joined them - pulled them to where I want to go and used them as social pivots/proof. They were nice looking faces but "bulky" for an athletic guy of my size and frame. So I was not really interested but I think I couldve used them to my advantage.

Got a lot of HUGS. (sometimes they seemed forced)

MISCELLANEOUS:

Chatted with the cops securing the club gate, chatted with a guy with crutches (and cute looking female friends..), general chit-chat with the bar tenders about how lame it was for people to be paying good money to be the waterboy for the wet t-shirt contest...(70 to 100$ each... ) STOOOOOPID!!!.

Part I gets over as we head out (need to work tomorrow..so) of the club.

PS: He is not used to the smoky, hip hop 18+ crowd and tends to enjoy clubs which have a better amount of single young professionals (versus ghetto ladies at a hip hop club). I think he is more of a lounge / club gamer with MAJOR SUCCESSES.

Part II - At the I-Hop

http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/read?160844,24

Interesting text SMS to reattract female with false time constraint after incomplete CUBE on female

I text her this and ive been using it EVER Since!!!! this is the exact text message it goes in two parts...

"Hi, You Have Won An Amazing Prize, To Claim Your Awesome Prize All You Have To Do Is Look Sexy..."

Text #2

"Your Top Prize Is A Chance To Chat To Darren, He Can Fit You In At About 4Pm On Tuesday, Remind Him To Do The Cube Again Though! Where Is Easiest To Meet As I Wont Have Long? Congratulations"

They seem to really dig this if you have done enough ground work pre texting.

TD comments on a newbies attempt to use and emulate TDs tactics

TD comments on a newbies tactics in using TDs guidelines. Using different levels of "dress" sense within and outside your social circles (COLD PUs).

[QUOTE]
-Are you dressed COOL? To look at you, from a first impression, would people's impression be that you're someone who gets laid and has friends, or that you're a AFC dork who is trying to chat chicks? It's an honest question, because its something that you can easily change. I see very bad looking guys here in Los Angeles, but they have a counter-culture alpha look and vibe to them. They LOOK like they get laid, despite that they are not goodlooking whatsoever.

-Is your vocal expressiveness really good? Does your voice resonate, project, and have a variety of expression in it?

-Are you super chilled out and looking like you're enjoying the interaction and not seeking validation? IT'S NOT ABOUT NOT SHOWING INTEREST, ITS ABOUT NOT NEEDING VALIDATION. Remember that, because one can convey sexuality and the other conveys neediness.

-Do routines seem natural and like fucking interesting pieces of conversation, or are they coming across like you're a dork spewing a script? Don't get paranoid, as girls are not as psychic as the guys here on ASF would believe, but it has to hit a bare minimum level.

-Are you coming across with an us versus them frame, or a frame where you playfully tease about having higher value but really you love them like little sisters.

-Are you quickly moving them somewhere comfortable that you can work, or sitting in the middle of pedestrian traffic? Do you keep talking AS you move them to sit, so their ASD doesn't kick in, or do you just say "let's go" and shut up until you sit down? If you do the latter, their ASD kicks in and they lose interest and leave.

-Are you comfortable in club culture? Understand that club culture is intertwined with hot female psych to the max degree. There is NO escaping it, despite what guys on this chatboard will fantasize. You don't have to pull from clubs. That's up to you. But if your social calibration and vibe isn't on a level that you could go to one and fit in there (or better yet, beat it), then even if you try to pull these girls from the street you will know that you aren't ready yet, because being able to survive club culture so to speak is a barometer of your social calibration in general.
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FR: HB9, but got CBed - while Pub Hopping downtown - 5th June 2004

FR: HB9, but got CBed - while Pub Hopping downtown

FR: Pub Hopping Downtown
5th June 2004

I have not been able to really get out in 10 days as we had a major work deadline and had to work weekends. This weekend 20th June I did go out with my wings, but for some reason my state was not that "high". I believe I was just too tired and stressed out. Go figure.

So I am going to post a FR of a more productive night whose FR was pending... I went out with 2 wings. My mindset and goals were as follows:
- Dont care for the outcome.
- Approach as much as possible. Get rid of THAT approach anxiety I always have. STILL HAVE IT AT TIMES.
- Put myself in situations where I normall wouldnt want to be. Get out of the comfort zone.

The NIGHT WAS BROKEN INTO 4 SCENES. I WOULD REALLY LIKE COMMENTS AND CRITICISM ON SCENE 4... THIS IS LONG SO YOU CAN SKIP TO SCENE 4.

5th June 2004:

Scene: Downtown evening I meet up for the first time with JFiredUp who is a wing of Smoove_move and we have talked on the phone already earlier in the day about things that he is having problems with.

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We meet and head to this club where he knows one of the marketing promo females who is HBShortAsianFiesty. We say hello and we get in without paying anything and as I slowly walk in (these days I am trying to use the "slow motion" walk) I look back and JFUp is talking to a bunch of females (he had mentioned that he was sposed to meet with a bunch of ladies) of what looked like a Bachelorette party (6-7 girls mixed HB levels from UG to . He is talking to every girl so I figured he knew them (which I found out later he did not).

So I am looking at this group sideways and I notice that the bachelorette has a list of "naughty" things on her T-shirt to do before she gets hitched. We say hellos to a few girls and I make sure that I dont look eager so I dont lean or go as JFUp did but it seemed like he was more in the mix with his high energy approaches and I was more ladi back with ADisinterest ?? (Ive been doing that but I dont think its really working.. and maybe it is.. then I got to look out for the IOIs >??)

She (bachelorette) basically wants us to help her out and they pull us in to grind her from the back and the front we do that for like 2 mins. Then I am just doing a little C&F and she wants us to sign her LIST since we did that.. so I am like.. not that easy.. you have got to give me a little bitty kiss on the side.. "give me a kiss" (point to side of the face = cheek). She does, I point to other side, she does, point to lips she is like.. no..so i point to other side again and she comes forth and suddenly turn and kiss her on the lips.. she laughs..I smile.. / grin and then she is like.. okay now i need you to sign at 2 places on the list.. i take the marker and make a little round dot on her T- where her left tit would be.. teasing her.. she is like .. oh please sign it here n here..

i do that she gives me a hug and (at the same time JFup is gaming/fluffing w the girls..).

Notes:
- Maybe I should have stayed with her n her gang and talked to some of the other girls in the group.
- Maybe there was no point as they were a Bachelorette party and no female would split or we would be CBed.
- Maybe a C&F attract, Socialilze w them and # close would have been a good way

Suggestions ??

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I work my way past the lounge where they were past a long bar into the dance floor inside (passed by a no. of HB Sets..just wanted to not care and looked through). Through out I do "slow-motion" alpha like I dont care till I am at the edge of the floor and I slowly at the floor and my wing JFUp starts breaking it down and I look at it smile and in a while make my moves... very very smooth.. we are getting a lot of attention as such.. just enjoyin ourselves in general..

JFUp is ballsy and opens up a number of sets and I join in and we do a lil fluff, C&F and I use the Guys/Girls lie routine. All in all just chilling but did not get much through these sets. One female is like I am not drunk enough to dance..so I bust her but she is not really responsive. I tell her go get a drink from the bar and she is like you buy me one.. I am like oh.. i dont buy girls drinks they buy me drinks.. etc.. he dances w a set he knows from Univ and these are 2 HB/UG indian girls that I did not really find to be anywhere near "HB". He grinds w a fat-plump blonde and he is "waiting" to get a number from one of his "indian" HB ..and she is acting pricey..

QUESTION: A number of times he opens a set there is only enough "room" for one person and I wonder how I should enter the set (in terms of PHYSICAL SPACE in the circle) and / or how he should bring me in.. Basically WE really need some really good WING CO-ORDINATION advise. How do wings bring each other in.. in terms of TIME, TECHNIQUE ? Other than the basic.. here is my friend.. XYZ.. Also, what should I be doing UNTIL THEN ?? I feel awkward or stupid waiting or trying to figure out the right moment to get in... Should I get in at the same time as he did and engage the other "side" or other "chick(s)" of that gang.

Notes:
- I need to start to OPEN sets versus always being the 2nd man of the gang.. Being the INITIATOR ? In terms of the WING DYNAMICS do females essentially find that the guy that had the balls to open up the set is the "alpha" and the guy who tag teams in is not ? If so, how can that be alleviated ? Is ACCOMPLISHMENT INTRO the only way ? Please provide some good examples ?

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I get out of the floor and walkout to the bar and just hang there.. and this SkinnyAznAFC comes and says whoa dude u can dance..whered u learn to dance like that.. cool go dance with some chics man.. I am like whatever ( I dont know whether he was trying to compliment me and gain SP from me or slightly trying to be sarcastic.. it did not seem like he could as he was real AFC).

I am slightly down in state as he is in there in the mix.. and I am out.

I just wait up for JFup to come out as he was just fluffin w HBShortAsianFiesty promoter and they were sort of play grinding and feeling.. etc. They come out and are still talking etc.

BTW - HBShortAsianFiesty had come to the floor and was play dancing w him and somewhere I just noticed that she had the same flip phone as mine and it was "flip locked" onto her tank/t-shirt (between her chest.. which was basically flat) that she was wearing inside another shirt. I had taken her phone and walked out and kept it with me.

So when she came out she was like I want the phone it belongs to someone else that I borrowed it from. I tease her around not letting her get the phone... she is short 5ish and I am almost 10 or 11 inches taller than her. (left to right)...I do the same left-cheek right-cheek kiss thing on her.. get her lip kiss but a little on the side of her lips.. and she is like you missed.. I am like.. haha.. gotcha.. still dont give it to her.. she starts to get upset.. so i am like.. hey cry baby.. here it is.. she takes it and gives me a hug.

We ALL (J, Her & I) just fluff and slowly head out as we plan to meet our common friend Smoove_move.

She is talking to JFup and in general i tease her a few times about being a gold digger etc.. (jfup told me so).. Meet Smoove_move who came from a date with an indian chic (hes azn).

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We head out and meet another guy who they know and head to another pub. This place has a dance floor upstairs and pub downstairs so we go up.. chill out dance.. come down etc. while we are leaving this place... we wait for remaining guy.

I notice that there is this 4 set with one incredibly beautiful HB... HB9 .. Id say a 9.5 face and a 9 body (she was short thats why not 10)... and I rarely every give a girl "high" ratings... she was incredibly pretty faced, lovely smile, eyes and dimples.

I walked back in alone since we were still waiting for one guy. I think smoove_move followed me in then.. or later.. i did not really notice as I was focussed (he was around as far as I can remember.. ). I get to the table and say hello.. hey how are you guys doing.. and ask this BlondieStuckUp ( why the name.. later) who was sitting on the one edge of the 4 girls sitting in a U around the table, to give me some space on her chair..can you please shift and give me some space.. etc..

I open with the who lies more opener and we talk about it.. and for some wierd reason I dont remember even looking at or talking to BlondieStuckUp since I was on one half of the chair and did not want to bump into her.. giving her the space but wanting to "stay at their level" to maintain seated eye contact and not have to BEND for talking to them..

The HB9 and her HBPrettyButFat friend are on the opposite side so its easy to converse with them face to face.. and with EC..UG3 2nd from my seated location is literally "numb" .. no +ve and no -ve ..jus sitting there.

After a bit BlondieStuckUp starts to get annoyed or something and says.. can you please leave.. and slowly starts getting louder and shouts and stuff.. and says get a chair.. im like.. why dont u get another one.. I am like hey.. chill out.. your friends here are nice enough to be smiling and having a nice conversation why do you have to get so worked up.. The thing is throughout I am very very very calm, composed and SMILING.. I was literally unfazed by her existance or her outbursts and had consistent eye contact with the other 2 girls who I am talking to. After a while, she starts to get loud and the HBPFat kind of says.. please etc.. (I think BlondieStuckUp had girl coded her to say.. hey.. u are still talking to this guy when I am shouting and getting ticked at him).

So my friend Smoove_move comes in and gets me a stool (since I was not ready to give up on my FRAME.. I AM NOT BUDGING). I switch to the stool.. I say there.. you happy.. and at the same time he moves in and starts apologizing for me.. damn.. I am like smoove you dont have to apologize to them.. cmon... and he kind of goes and says hello.. they ask his name.. etc.. maybe abotu me ? or bad mouth me.. ?( i dont know exact convo they had i couldnt hear.. he was slightly standing in front of me..)

What I noticed was throughout her outburts I did not even flinch.. hehe.. it was like my SMILE from my face.. and the POSITIVE ENERGY I had would not go away.. and at the SAME TIME.. what kept this positive energy alive was that the HB9 had not even once stopped smiling and / or broken EC with me..

(This is something I realized later that she was interested or something.. on the other hand Smoove is a DJ Forums person and he thought that slowly i went into the Jerk territory and some girls just keep smiling and being nice no matter whaT..

I still think she was interested as she stood up when I was kind of moving away from the table while finally first time negging BlondieStuckUp ..and saying you know what.. you are not friendly and you have no manners in how to talk to people.. etc..

NOTE: I am a smart looking fellow with chocolate boy looks and females would usually attribute "CUTE & HANDSOME" to me big time. Atleast thats what I ve been told. Basically they say I have a million $ smile.. Either way.. I dont want a boast-a-thon.

The reason why I am saying this is that it is literally next to impossible for me to come off as a JERK or a PLAYER.. I tend to have the NICE GUY feel to me..

Notes:

- I was consistently unfazed by anyone or anything at the time.. partly due to self-energized positive frame and smile.. (I literally couldnt stop smiling) and partly due to consistent +ve smile & EC from HB9. I was like impenetrable despite a bitchy blonde sitting on the same chair as me was SHOUTING and BITCHING.

- Question is: Is smoove right about the fact that I came off as a jerk.. or I came off as a positive guy who was no affected by the BlondieStuckUp's shanadigans... was she smiling just because she is one of the girls that is always NICE and even if not interested tends to just be DIPLOMATIC and pleasant ?

- I do realize that instead of doing a NEG takeaway.. I should have done more by picking out the HB9 & HBPrettyFat (so that HB9 does not get DEFENSIVE or feel too special) and telling them.. hey you know what you guys seem to be cool.. and we should definitely converse sometime soon, but since your friend has had a bad day..and do a # close..

I NEED SOME REAL ANALYTICAL COMMENTS HERE ON SCENE 4.

PU MASTERS - PLEASE DO COMMENT .. I dont want replies from KJs (although they are appreciated as well). But someone who can tell me what the REAL SOCIAL DYNAMICS were out here in SCENE 4 ... and if and how I misinterpreted them.

FINALLY:

After that night and another previous post I was charged to sarge.. but due to work not letting me off for 2 weeks I lost that positive state or energy or something. Need to get back up.

Thanks,

- xmlengima

http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/read?159633,24

Interesting female perfume technique leads to LR (also perfume suggestions)

Using a female perfume on himself and spraying some into the car to make it appear that there was a female in the car earlier. Also, leaving a little Victorias secret bag in the car and making it seem like it was for some female but saying that it was for his sister...

Also, comments from other PUAs about perfumes they use and recommend.

http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/read?157667,24

anxiety due to internal programming by society is like living in the "Matrix".. one needs to believe in the ability to overcome it & do new things

As derived from a post by TrentWalker who was attending a personal workshop by Shark & BadBoy..

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Shark and I then walk to a restaurant and grab a bite to eat while he begins explaining some theory. We walk to a café, and he gives me the theory portion of his part of the workshop.

He talks about how all the fear you feel for approaching chicks in different situations is society’s programming, like the Matrix in a sense. This was a very powerful analogy for me (and I would start to understand it with more clarity by the second and third day). He explained what we can do to defeat this Matrix when it comes to women, and he gave me some tactics to do so. This social programming is so deeply ingrained in us, and it is fundamental that we keep aware of it and step up to it and smash it whenever creeps up on us (which it repeatedly will).
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[QUOTE]Shark explained how what I am experiencing is society’s programming telling me I shouldn’t sarge hot chicks. Now society wouldn’t tell this to someone rich and famous if they were doing the exact same thing. Then Shark told me to start stopping moving SETS!! It got eventually got a tiny bit easier with every attempt (but still challenging) and then we moved to another part of the mall.
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I sarged a HB (let’s call her Chick 1) and she told me she was not interested. I sarged another HB (let’s call her Chick 2) and didn’t get anywhere with her. I go to Shark, and he tells me, “Open that chick over there,” and he pointed to Chick 2. I tell him, “I already did.” He says, “Go open her again. It is okay to go and open the same chick twice.” “I tell him maybe it’s not a good idea because Chick 1—who I already sarged—is standing so close her.” He says, “So what?”, and I go and open her with a Shark-style opener: “You look nice, and I’d like to get to know you better.” To make a long story short, I get an instant-date with her that lasts about one hour. This was a good confidence builder.
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I think this is what stops most of us from DOING what we feel like doing but do not end up doing. It is the cause for ASD in females as well as males (when they are morally inclined). One needs to overcome this "rule of society".

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