Friday, July 08, 2005

How a compliment can be a PUSH PULL i.e. Validation and Takeaway = Chase you

http://fastseduction.com/masf/24/236746/ - Commander Zap.

I forget which HB was with me. but I wasn't doing PU and I just said to this hotty, very honestly which makes it better (but if you can fake sincerity you've got it made), I said:

"I just want to tell you, you look so great dressed that way, it's fabulous, and the guy sitting next to you is a lucky man."

Smile, nod, EC, and bye/Thanks, shock, and DDB.

I don't think I kino-ed, this chick was on the way to the john. I suppose guy-next-to- her-being-lucky is subtle boyfriend destroyer.

[I dont know about this being a BF Destroyer.. well if I think about it.. YES. It says he's LUCKY.. not that he's good.. but he's just plain lucky to have gotten a BETTER DEAL.. i.e. He is Lucky and HB is NOT.. i.e. she got the shorter end of the stick]

Imagine a nice-looking girl saying the equivalent to you. You'd remember that, right? (Read the quote again.) If you didn't tell friends (or us) about it the next day, you'd be thinking about it. You'd remember the exchange, you'd remember HER.

It violates a little bit you-are-the-prize,
But remember the don't-compliment-her rule does have an exception:

- you can if you honestly just want to,
- and if you can confidently move from it in the very next moment and not look like you need reaction. [By saying a compliment you have given her a "feeling" and by walking away you have taken it away.. This will make her crave it.. and make her want to chase you]

Besides all you're saying is that her date is *not* the prize!
Ha-ha!



Loverboy does his version of Push Pull with compliments here.. VERY VERY EFFECTIVE AND DETAILED in how he leans in and out and does verbal with physical push pull and kino.

Fuck it. I want to work on my nonverbal game (which is slowly improving and I'm
glad to see it get tighter!! In the past I could be making out with a girl and
not have touched her before that.. lol) I start increasing kino, started with
some slaps on her thighs, then her hands, then her arm. I put my hand around
her neck and pull her in towards me, and I'm running my hands on her legs. I
even start massaging her while talking absoultely BULLSHIT.

This seems to get her a little turned on, but I realized I need to activate
blueprint properly. I can see it halfway there because I was getting mixed
reactions. But i want to get this ON...

Here's what I did... I COMPLIMENTED her, took it away, and repeated the process
a few times. I mirrored my BL with the exact opposite (pull back sa I
compliment, lean in as I take it away) and I would kino ping her on the
shoulders. She's pushing back and forth now. Shit, this is working. I even
tell her that she is turning me on, and how I want to even have SEX with her
while leaning back, then I took it AWAY and said 'actually I don't know... we
might not be compatible' while I lean in. BAM. We're close up. She's
blushing. WTF??? This was how her blueprint activates. It's weird as fuck.
But I was glad I picked it up. This girl has a weird blueprint because she's
like at least a 9 here but I feel like she'd sleep with me simply for
validation if I play it right, and fuck, where is the ASD and shit?

She knew I was seducing her because she said she is seeing someone and said if
I am going to tell anyone about this especially Richie....

haha

Anyway she leads and reframes for me.

Her: 'Ok... go along with me... I'm a friend of yours, right?'
Loverboy: 'WTF? What are you talking about?'
Her: 'no no just go along with me here.'
Loverboy: 'ok... ' (WTF)
Her: 'Hey.. I'm a friend of yours... I think u're really sexy... I want to have
sex with you!'
Loverboy: 'Okay!' (Cool!!)
Her: 'But well it's just happening becasue we had a drink, right? We are
friends so we can't let anyone know, right?'
Loverboy: 'Okay!'
Her: 'Okay!' (she looks relieved)
Loverboy: 'Okay!'


A LR by simply pushing and pulling/

Another one:

For the next half hour, we basically talked about her BOYFRIEND. I know guys
would say to cut off the thread and ignore it completely. I used to do that.
But you let chics talk and tell them what a 100% perfect relationship they
have... and they'll find reasons to the contrary. They also eventually bring
up PROBLEMS and ISSUES which I can use it to my ADVANTAGE. The key however, is
to let them talk about it without affecting you.

My favorite part of the whole convo was testing out some high tech 'state
breaking' NLP shit:

HB: 'He's so sweet he's taking me to Italy for my birthday.'
I slap her on the hand.
HB: 'OUCH! What was that? You just hit my hand!! Why did you do that??' she
shouted, slightly shocked.
Me: 'Oh, I thought that was a mosquito on your hand…
HB: 'Oh...'
Me: 'But then we're in Scotland… we don't have mosquitoes here.. I wonder what
that was!'

I did this in a very very playful manner, but I definitely hit kinda hard. And
I think she kinda liked it.

This, ladies and gentlemen, I call pattern interruption. Something I'm still
experimenting with. This was enough to get her to drop that chain of thought
about her wonderful AFC BF taking her on holiday. I broke her state. I'm
sure there are better ways to interrupt than physically HITTING them… esp if
it's not their blueprint. LOL. I did the hair grabbing thing on a chic once
and she almost cried. But that's a different story. Anything to link any
pleasurable thoughts of her BF to pain effectively and quickly… except that she
seems to enjoy being dominated and rough.. so uggh I'm not sure. I'm rambling
here and going around in circles... plus this is all theoretical....

I start building deep comfort through vulnerability stories, and phase shift my
vocals. I gaze and slow down. I look at her sexually… I slow down my voice.
She's sat there looking at me all DDB. I start talking about kissing... I go
in for the kiss... I see her stiffen a little so I pull back... before she can
even object, I said to her first.... 'we shouldn't be doing this... what are
you doing to me...'

I go back into kissing her, push-pulling and rewarding...I tell her I just
couldn't resist those soft lips... how I'm sure they taste so sweet...yet I
don't know what she's doing to me... and how I'm trying so hard not to kiss
her... the tension was crazy. After a little while, I just take her by the
hand, and walk her out of the venue. Just as I do with every girl on my day2s
(even though I tongue most of them in the bar first). No words.


I also noticed a lot of Juggler like force commitment and SOI here..

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