FR: 8/19-8/21 : 3 nights - AMAZING REALIZATIONS!!! - Part II
SATURDAY:
Wings: Oscar, YBatman
I slept for an hour or so, got up and saw missed calls. Took a shower etc. and returned calls to Oscar & YBatman and we planned to meet up and try something other than the Marina this time.
We had been going to the Marina and thought we should make a change. We decide to head to Broadway (North Beach).
NOTES:
I had gotten some rest and was relaxed to quite an extent and I think this is one of the reasons why my state during sarging and being out was more fun. I wasnt forcibly dragging my mind and body out.
I dont remember the entire night ... but we did a few here n there.. I will post the ones that make most sense to me or I remember...
VENUE: Bubble Lounge
We went in twice to that place...and walked around broadway in between
Step in and there is a decent crowd and we walk through. Scope possible targets and observe
SET 1:
Oscar opens some alone female at the bar (from what I thought) and is talking to her for quite a while.. It is packed near the bar and he has a few more females around who he is infrequently talking to.. I wait around to see if he needed a wing at any given time.... He steps out and de-briefs...
Apparently she was going into Rapport with him before he even tried and he wanted to stay in the Attract phase...
I dont know if that was good or bad.. and how would you guys suggest it be handled ?
SET 2:
An asian promoter females opens us and invites us to a singles event and I get more details... She starts saying.. I say.. whats the catch.. and start busting her on ..what kind of ladies are going to be there.. etc.. and say it better have some pretty ladies with personalities to match... etc.. and say that this event thing better not flake or I will have my company lawyer send out a bounty hunter to come find her.. she
SET 3:
Oscar opens a 2 set HB7-8 Latinas and is doing his thing.. I drop in asking if he had seen "XYZ" and he Accomplishment Intros me. saying.. he is the coolest dancer you guys will meet.... and I am like oh.. cmon.. u did not have to tell them that.. and say he is being modest he is a really cool musician.. and DJ... Since he was already in I believe that there is no point in busting them (this is what I learnt from Oscar.. dont bust when IN.. unless they SHIT test again..).. We chit chat about stuff (I dont remember)...
I slowly figure out who is the Target and I start engaging the other Latina.. following things in some order that i dont remember..
(we had found that her friend was from Houston..and the location in Houston. where I am from.. )
- she mentions shes from XXXXX, CA... and I am like.. hey i just went driving there today for a road trip.. the beach w some people... and I had a bunch of pictures from earlier that day on my nice digicam... Instant Storytelling... and identification with place she is from...
- Slight backhand neg compliment about her having a colorful 70s hippiesh look.. and shes like no.. im like oh.. i really like them but its got a cool retro-ish feel to it.. and during that.. i point screen of digital camera to shoes.. and point out shoes have same retro-ish look...
- Find out she is into Fashion school and mention a friend of mine who is in the industry and used to be my fashion consultant when we went out shopping and now i cant use her help as she is in NYC.. and I am now in SF Bay area.. She offers to be my fashion consultant now and help me shop... I am like I like window shopping more than shopping.. blah blah.. she buys my frame.. we should do that.. etc.. but only if she is not going to flake etc.. cause i dont like people who give you contact information and stuff.. If I get the answering machine I am not going to call back... u better pick up...
# close her.. while i key in her number ...she says it and i cant hear so she takes my phone.. tried.. says can u clear it.. i clear it.. she keys in the #... and saves it ... I take the phone and I am like... hmm..she leans in and tells me its under 'J'.. I am like.. Im sorry i forgot ur name (did not get ur name).. she tells me.. she says u can change it later...
- Oscar indicates.. lets move...
- We took pictures with our respective female targets...
- Mention to THEM we should hang out.. and stuff... and suggest and get them to kind of affirm driving to NAPA valley for a kind of day trip ..tasting wines etc.. blah blah.. ( attention away from any one of them.. ) So let me know if you guys are seriously game for that or not.. otherwise.. i wont call them..
SET 4: (Extensively broken down)
I open 2 set HB8.xs (dont remember exactly) Brunette and Blonde (both slim, tall and classy cuties). I open with the best friends (are u guys best friends.. cause i dont know but it kind of seems like that.. ) they say yes no.. (look @ each other).. rephrase.. close to each other etc.. find out they are roommates... etc.. point out X number of similarities.. etc
(NOTE: I realized that its not the ROUTINE, but HOW you RUN IT.. and that night I was calm, relaxed, conversant and natural w the routine..)
.. roomates.. so i ask where they live.. they are like 4 females in a place in the city.. cool.. where in the city.. she is like.. i hardly know u, i cant tell u... i am like are u accusing me ..that I am a stalker...I turn back and close my body language.. (in a teasing & playful manner.. playful smile the entire time)...
somewhere here OSCAR joins in ( I accomplishment Intro him like before) and I tell him arent they like best friends.. blah blah.. and they are accusing me of being a stalker... (every now and then i turn around and talk to Oscar and we take attention away from them.. I AM NOT SURE .. but I think we did a few Hi-Fis or something of the sort)...
somewhere one of them Shit-Tests about being married to each other (lesbians shit test).. and I am like.. "cmon.. now how many times have I heard that one.. hehe.. .. forget that... how many times have you used that line to brush off stupid guys" (I do all this animated... with a playful smile and body language. that was leaning back and twisting away from them..)
... they burst out laughing.. and one says.. i ve got to give you credit for being intelligent etc.. I am like theres nothing intelligent about it.. thats common sense... what kind of stupid guys do u meet...
one of their 3rd roommates came by once.. and before she says stuff i open her (to befriend) and ask her.. do I look like a stalker.. she says no.. and I tell her that her friend thinks I am a stalker etc...
RESULTS:
- the blonde leans in twice
1. Once to ask my name and shake hands with me.. I am still leaning back.. (they were leaning on the back of a couch and lean forward to shake my hand..)
2. Once before she was leaving.. she leaned forward quite close and held my hand for quite a bit while i playfully talked to her.. it was the handhold where my hand is holding the girls hand and taking her to the dance floor kind of hold... (YES.. I realized that later.. )
AFTERTHOUGHTS:
- I think she wanted me to # close etc..
- I think I should ve number closed THEM.. as such.. (both) for the following reasons:
- they seemed like cool girls (2 friendly + 1 pull away + 1 unseen) living in a nice location in the city..
- a great place to crash (& maybe attend their parties... 4 females = lots of house parties )
- probably amazing for SP & Pivots.. IN THE WORST CASE. (I think SF has a lotf hotties that know each other.. or tend to)
Good points:
- BL .. relaxed, laid back, twisted away at times..confident..
- Smile - throughout... playful
- eyes - playfully disapproving and playful ... (lots of variations)
- conversation - relaxed, neutral and playful..
REALIZATIONS:
- Too much Cocky is only good for HB9 plus or 8.5 plus... the hotter the babe the more C&F she will enjoy..
- PLAYFUL is the best MODE to go in..
- HAVE FUN with your WING.. nothing shows DHV.. and social being more than YOU having fun w ur wing even when u are talking to them.. by taking attention away and passing high fives..
MISSC SETS XX:
YBatman got opened by a whole lot of chics who came by to comment on his glow-light t-shirt.. Man Ive got to get one of those.. Y cmon let us in on the secret..
One set on street 3 HB Latinas.. opened with Gay Shirt - They said.. Metrosexual... blah.. blah.. eject..
One asian who I kind of commented while she might have possibly squashed my pizza while adding the parmesan... she smiles.. and stuff.. My intention was to compliment her on her pink top and ask her what is it about so many females these days with the pink thing.. is it like the fashion thing...
NOTE:
Unless targets are decently attractive my interest just fades... or they have to be playful and conversational..
something to INTEREST my brain to keep them engaged.. or i get bored by...
- unattractive OR - cold non-interactive females..
OSCAR PLEASE POST YOUR COMMENTS IF POSSIBLE.
ANY SUGGESTIONS, INTERPRETATIONS & ADVISE WELCOME.
Wings: Oscar, YBatman
I slept for an hour or so, got up and saw missed calls. Took a shower etc. and returned calls to Oscar & YBatman and we planned to meet up and try something other than the Marina this time.
We had been going to the Marina and thought we should make a change. We decide to head to Broadway (North Beach).
NOTES:
I had gotten some rest and was relaxed to quite an extent and I think this is one of the reasons why my state during sarging and being out was more fun. I wasnt forcibly dragging my mind and body out.
I dont remember the entire night ... but we did a few here n there.. I will post the ones that make most sense to me or I remember...
VENUE: Bubble Lounge
We went in twice to that place...and walked around broadway in between
Step in and there is a decent crowd and we walk through. Scope possible targets and observe
SET 1:
Oscar opens some alone female at the bar (from what I thought) and is talking to her for quite a while.. It is packed near the bar and he has a few more females around who he is infrequently talking to.. I wait around to see if he needed a wing at any given time.... He steps out and de-briefs...
Apparently she was going into Rapport with him before he even tried and he wanted to stay in the Attract phase...
I dont know if that was good or bad.. and how would you guys suggest it be handled ?
SET 2:
An asian promoter females opens us and invites us to a singles event and I get more details... She starts saying.. I say.. whats the catch.. and start busting her on ..what kind of ladies are going to be there.. etc.. and say it better have some pretty ladies with personalities to match... etc.. and say that this event thing better not flake or I will have my company lawyer send out a bounty hunter to come find her.. she
SET 3:
Oscar opens a 2 set HB7-8 Latinas and is doing his thing.. I drop in asking if he had seen "XYZ" and he Accomplishment Intros me. saying.. he is the coolest dancer you guys will meet.... and I am like oh.. cmon.. u did not have to tell them that.. and say he is being modest he is a really cool musician.. and DJ... Since he was already in I believe that there is no point in busting them (this is what I learnt from Oscar.. dont bust when IN.. unless they SHIT test again..).. We chit chat about stuff (I dont remember)...
I slowly figure out who is the Target and I start engaging the other Latina.. following things in some order that i dont remember..
(we had found that her friend was from Houston..and the location in Houston. where I am from.. )
- she mentions shes from XXXXX, CA... and I am like.. hey i just went driving there today for a road trip.. the beach w some people... and I had a bunch of pictures from earlier that day on my nice digicam... Instant Storytelling... and identification with place she is from...
- Slight backhand neg compliment about her having a colorful 70s hippiesh look.. and shes like no.. im like oh.. i really like them but its got a cool retro-ish feel to it.. and during that.. i point screen of digital camera to shoes.. and point out shoes have same retro-ish look...
- Find out she is into Fashion school and mention a friend of mine who is in the industry and used to be my fashion consultant when we went out shopping and now i cant use her help as she is in NYC.. and I am now in SF Bay area.. She offers to be my fashion consultant now and help me shop... I am like I like window shopping more than shopping.. blah blah.. she buys my frame.. we should do that.. etc.. but only if she is not going to flake etc.. cause i dont like people who give you contact information and stuff.. If I get the answering machine I am not going to call back... u better pick up...
# close her.. while i key in her number ...she says it and i cant hear so she takes my phone.. tried.. says can u clear it.. i clear it.. she keys in the #... and saves it ... I take the phone and I am like... hmm..she leans in and tells me its under 'J'.. I am like.. Im sorry i forgot ur name (did not get ur name).. she tells me.. she says u can change it later...
- Oscar indicates.. lets move...
- We took pictures with our respective female targets...
- Mention to THEM we should hang out.. and stuff... and suggest and get them to kind of affirm driving to NAPA valley for a kind of day trip ..tasting wines etc.. blah blah.. ( attention away from any one of them.. ) So let me know if you guys are seriously game for that or not.. otherwise.. i wont call them..
SET 4: (Extensively broken down)
I open 2 set HB8.xs (dont remember exactly) Brunette and Blonde (both slim, tall and classy cuties). I open with the best friends (are u guys best friends.. cause i dont know but it kind of seems like that.. ) they say yes no.. (look @ each other).. rephrase.. close to each other etc.. find out they are roommates... etc.. point out X number of similarities.. etc
(NOTE: I realized that its not the ROUTINE, but HOW you RUN IT.. and that night I was calm, relaxed, conversant and natural w the routine..)
.. roomates.. so i ask where they live.. they are like 4 females in a place in the city.. cool.. where in the city.. she is like.. i hardly know u, i cant tell u... i am like are u accusing me ..that I am a stalker...I turn back and close my body language.. (in a teasing & playful manner.. playful smile the entire time)...
somewhere here OSCAR joins in ( I accomplishment Intro him like before) and I tell him arent they like best friends.. blah blah.. and they are accusing me of being a stalker... (every now and then i turn around and talk to Oscar and we take attention away from them.. I AM NOT SURE .. but I think we did a few Hi-Fis or something of the sort)...
somewhere one of them Shit-Tests about being married to each other (lesbians shit test).. and I am like.. "cmon.. now how many times have I heard that one.. hehe.. .. forget that... how many times have you used that line to brush off stupid guys" (I do all this animated... with a playful smile and body language. that was leaning back and twisting away from them..)
... they burst out laughing.. and one says.. i ve got to give you credit for being intelligent etc.. I am like theres nothing intelligent about it.. thats common sense... what kind of stupid guys do u meet...
one of their 3rd roommates came by once.. and before she says stuff i open her (to befriend) and ask her.. do I look like a stalker.. she says no.. and I tell her that her friend thinks I am a stalker etc...
RESULTS:
- the blonde leans in twice
1. Once to ask my name and shake hands with me.. I am still leaning back.. (they were leaning on the back of a couch and lean forward to shake my hand..)
2. Once before she was leaving.. she leaned forward quite close and held my hand for quite a bit while i playfully talked to her.. it was the handhold where my hand is holding the girls hand and taking her to the dance floor kind of hold... (YES.. I realized that later.. )
AFTERTHOUGHTS:
- I think she wanted me to # close etc..
- I think I should ve number closed THEM.. as such.. (both) for the following reasons:
- they seemed like cool girls (2 friendly + 1 pull away + 1 unseen) living in a nice location in the city..
- a great place to crash (& maybe attend their parties... 4 females = lots of house parties )
- probably amazing for SP & Pivots.. IN THE WORST CASE. (I think SF has a lotf hotties that know each other.. or tend to)
Good points:
- BL .. relaxed, laid back, twisted away at times..confident..
- Smile - throughout... playful
- eyes - playfully disapproving and playful ... (lots of variations)
- conversation - relaxed, neutral and playful..
REALIZATIONS:
- Too much Cocky is only good for HB9 plus or 8.5 plus... the hotter the babe the more C&F she will enjoy..
- PLAYFUL is the best MODE to go in..
- HAVE FUN with your WING.. nothing shows DHV.. and social being more than YOU having fun w ur wing even when u are talking to them.. by taking attention away and passing high fives..
MISSC SETS XX:
YBatman got opened by a whole lot of chics who came by to comment on his glow-light t-shirt.. Man Ive got to get one of those.. Y cmon let us in on the secret..
One set on street 3 HB Latinas.. opened with Gay Shirt - They said.. Metrosexual... blah.. blah.. eject..
One asian who I kind of commented while she might have possibly squashed my pizza while adding the parmesan... she smiles.. and stuff.. My intention was to compliment her on her pink top and ask her what is it about so many females these days with the pink thing.. is it like the fashion thing...
NOTE:
Unless targets are decently attractive my interest just fades... or they have to be playful and conversational..
something to INTEREST my brain to keep them engaged.. or i get bored by...
- unattractive OR - cold non-interactive females..
OSCAR PLEASE POST YOUR COMMENTS IF POSSIBLE.
ANY SUGGESTIONS, INTERPRETATIONS & ADVISE WELCOME.

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From: oscar
Date: Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:11 pm
Subject: Re: [ebss] FR: 8/19-8/21 : 3 nights - AMAZING REALIZATIONS!!! - Part II
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I'm glad you learned a lot from last Saturday night ~
good time overall. Don't forget to email me that pic
and the $10 for the pizza (:
> SET 3:
>
> Oscar opens a 2 set HB7-8 Latinas and is doing his
> thing.. I drop in
> asking if he had seen "XYZ" and he Accomplishment
> Intros me. saying..
> he is the coolest dancer you guys will meet.... and
> I am like oh..
> cmon.. u did not have to tell them that.. and say he
> is being modest
> he is a really cool musician.. and DJ... Since he
> was already in I
> believe that there is no point in busting them (this
> is what I learnt
> from Oscar.. dont bust when IN.. unless they SHIT
> test again..).. We
> chit chat about stuff (I dont remember)...
>
yup, you're doing much better on your 'busting' and
negs (in terms of toning it down a bit, being more
playful)
>
> I slowly figure out who is the Target and I start
> engaging the other
> Latina.. following things in some order that i dont
> remember..
> (we had found that her friend was from Houston..and
> the location in
> Houston. where I am from.. )
>
> - she mentions shes from XXXXX, CA... and I am
> like.. hey i just went
> driving there today for a road trip.. the beach w
> some people... and
> I had a bunch of pictures from earlier that day on
> my nice digicam...
> Instant Storytelling... and identification with
> place she is from...
>
> - Slight backhand neg compliment about her having a
> colorful 70s
> hippiesh look.. and shes like no.. im like oh.. i
> really like them
> but its got a cool retro-ish feel to it.. and during
> that.. i point
> screen of digital camera to shoes.. and point out
> shoes have same
> retro-ish look...
>
> - Find out she is into Fashion school and mention a
> friend of mine
> who is in the industry and used to be my fashion
> consultant when we
> went out shopping and now i cant use her help as she
> is in NYC.. and
> I am now in SF Bay area.. She offers to be my
> fashion consultant now
> and help me shop... I am like I like window shopping
> more than
> shopping.. blah blah.. she buys my frame.. we should
> do that.. etc..
> but only if she is not going to flake etc.. cause i
> dont like people
> who give you contact information and stuff.. If I
> get the answering
> machine I am not going to call back... u better pick
> up...
>
> # close her.. while i key in her number ...she says
> it and i cant
> hear so she takes my phone.. tried.. says can u
> clear it.. i clear
> it.. she keys in the #... and saves it ... I take
> the phone and I am
> like... hmm..she leans in and tells me its under
> 'J'.. I am like.. Im
> sorry i forgot ur name (did not get ur name).. she
> tells me.. she
> says u can change it later...
>
good stuff ~ if things were going really well and you
were really into her, I'd recommend isolating
> - Oscar indicates.. lets move...
>
> - We took pictures with our respective female
> targets...
>
> - Mention to THEM we should hang out.. and stuff...
> and suggest and
> get them to kind of affirm driving to NAPA valley
> for a kind of day
> trip ..tasting wines etc.. blah blah.. ( attention
> away from any one
> of them.. ) So let me know if you guys are seriously
> game for that or
> not.. otherwise.. i wont call them..
>
> SET 4: (Extensively broken down)
>
> I open 2 set HB8.xs (dont remember exactly) Brunette
> and Blonde (both
> slim, tall and classy cuties). I open with the best
> friends
you opened this one REALLY WELL
(are u
> guys best friends.. cause i dont know but it kind of
> seems like
> that.. ) they say yes no.. (look @ each other)..
> rephrase.. close to
> each other etc.. find out they are roommates...
> etc.. point out X
> number of similarities.. etc
>
> (NOTE: I realized that its not the ROUTINE, but HOW
> you RUN IT.. and
> that night I was calm, relaxed, conversant and
> natural w the
> routine..)
>
> .. roomates.. so i ask where they live.. they are
> like 4 females in a
> place in the city.. cool.. where in the city.. she
> is like.. i hardly
> know u, i cant tell u... ..that I am a
stalker...I turn back and close my body language.. (in
a teasing &
playful manner.. playful smile the entire time)...
I heard the best friends test but couldn't hear what
else you were saying. Most importantly, I saw that
they were really engaged. They were both sitting
against the couch and at one point they both STOOD UP
to hear you better (because they were leaning in so
much). You had them engaged and attracted, and after
winging with you a few times this night, I knew this
was a good time to enter.
somewhere here OSCAR joins in ( I accomplishment Intro
him like
before) and I tell him arent they like best friends..
blah blah.. and
they are accusing me of being a stalker... (every now
and then i turn
around and talk to Oscar and we take attention away
from them.. I AM
NOT SURE .. but I think we did a few Hi-Fis or
something of the
sort)...
somewhere one of them Shit-Tests about being married
to each other
(lesbians shit test).. and I am like.. "cmon.. now how
many times
have I heard that one.. hehe.. .. forget that... how
many times have
you used that line to brush off stupid guys" (I do all
this
animated... with a playful smile and body language.
that was leaning
back and twisting away from them..)
... they burst out laughing.. and one says.. i ve got
to give you
credit for being intelligent etc.. I am like theres
nothing
intelligent about it.. thats common sense... what kind
of stupid guys
do u meet...
I was just kicking back, waiting for you to indicate
which one you wanted. Basically, you just wanted to
stay in set ~ which is cool. The white girl was cute
though.
one of their 3rd roommates came by once.. and before
she says stuff i
open her (to befriend) and ask her.. do I look like a
stalker.. she
says no.. and I tell her that her friend thinks I am a
stalker etc...
that girl ended up pulling them away. Something that I
learned here, I should have identified HER as being
the CB since the other two were "in". She was on the
otherside of the group, but to protect your set, I
could have easily moved to where she was and opened
her.
She pulls them away and the white chick (i think the
other one was black or half black something) gives you
REALLY good kino on the way out. This was the best set
I've seen you run. Kick yourself in the head for not
closing (:
RESULTS:
- the blonde leans in twice
1. Once to ask my name and shake hands with me.. I am
still leaning
back.. (they were leaning on the back of a couch and
lean forward to
shake my hand..)
2. Once before she was leaving.. she leaned forward
quite close and
held my hand for quite a bit while i playfully talked
to her.. it was
the handhold where my hand is holding the girls hand
and taking her
to the dance floor kind of hold... (YES.. I realized
that later.. )
AFTERTHOUGHTS:
- I think she wanted me to # close etc..
- I think I should ve number closed THEM.. as such..
(both) for the
following reasons:
- they seemed like cool girls (2 friendly + 1 pull
away + 1 unseen)
living in a nice location in the city..
- a great place to crash (& maybe attend their
parties... 4 females =
lots of house parties )
- probably amazing for SP & Pivots.. IN THE WORST
CASE. (I think SF
has a lotf hotties that know each other.. or tend to)
Good points:
- BL .. relaxed, laid back, twisted away at
times..confident..
- Smile - throughout... playful
- eyes - playfully disapproving and playful ... (lots
of variations)
- conversation - relaxed, neutral and playful..
REALIZATIONS:
- Too much Cocky is only good for HB9 plus or 8.5
plus... the hotter
the babe the more C&F she will enjoy..
- PLAYFUL is the best MODE to go in..
- HAVE FUN with your WING.. nothing shows DHV.. and
social being more
than YOU having fun w ur wing even when u are talking
to them.. by
taking attention away and passing high fives..
Yup... in MY opinion, it's ALL about kicking back, and
having a good time. I hate getting overly technical.
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